Been checking out all the variator and clutch setups you’ve worked with…I’m building a Honda Camino with a custom swingarm and ciao rear wheel/variated rear clutch setup. Any advice on what’s best to go with? I have machining abilities, so just looking for the best setup based on your research and experimentation. Thanks!
if you have the ability to do it, the best set up is putting a scooter clutch and clutch bell on. but it takes some serious machining work. one simple thing you can do is find some springs that you can make fit in the regular vespa clutch. then you can get the extra slip for better acceleration. you just have to have the rpms to make it work. that’s what I did on my bravo. it worked really good with the right variator weights. I never got around to doing the scooter clutch thing, but you should look on sites like http://www.vespa-ciao.nl/ there’s lots of info there. good luck! let me know how it turns out.
Thanks for getting back to me! Picked up a Dr Pulley HiT clutch and have good machining contacts, so pretty confident I can get this done…I also got a GY6 pulley, which is huge – 140mm. From what I can tell from research, a rear pulley that large is going to really sacrifice top speed. The pulley would fit, but would require machining a GY6 output shaft to work with the stock tranny, so would only bother if it’s worth it for some reason. Your experience with that? Think I’m going to go with the stock pulley and the new clutch. Let me know what you think when you have a minute, and thanks again…
you would definitely loose top speed with a larger pulley, unless you used a larger front variator as well. more crazy machine work. I would keep the original pulley. how are you going to attach the new clutch bell to the shaft? from what I’ve seen, you will still need to put together two shafts to make it work. the orignal vespa shaft and the scooter end on the other side so the clutch bell can go on.
Finally got this bike together and rideable with the stock clutch, and have decided to go the GY6 clutch route. I ended up with a Hobbit clutch bell machined down up front with TJT varistor, and will be replacing the needle bearing and oil seal with larger ones in the transmission cover, and machining the ciao input shaft and gy6 input shaft to be pressed together. End result should look and act just like stock, except the new clutch and bell will be waaaaay better! You definitely got me motivated to press on with this.
Awesome! You should send a photo.
http://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/read.php?1,3329047 Let me know what you think!
WOW! That’s truly impressive!
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